Abstract:
Ben Hitchcock (B): Mister Horoshilina, thank you, that you agreed to explain to our readers your position.
Tolian Horoshilina (T): It is my job.
B: By the law, you should explain all for Tartarians, but you agreed..
T: For the fee. I am just employed.
B: You agreed to answer the sharp, non-polight questions..
T: It is also my job.
B: Why did you decide to participate as candidate at the election of coordinator?
T: Several friends asked me to do this. Well, customers of my mother.
B: Could you tell us about your mother?
T: She is fine. I am sure, she watches us. Hello, Mom!
B: What kind of business does your mother?
T: She is sexworker. Artist.
B: Sorry, I do not understand..
T: Prostitute. Bitch. She does it really well, and still, many visitors use her service.
B: In some countries, this would be considered as kind of compromate, defamation, shame..
T: Not here. This is just art – as painting, as performance.
B: The performance implies spectators..
T: Yes, of course. You and your readers can download movies of her performance. Type "Nasty Horoshilina", she should be first in the list.
B: Could you say anything about your father?
T: Sorry, I cannot. Neither Mom nor I are so curious to investigate this.. Do you mean my biologic father?
B: Sorry for asking that..
T: Do not worry. No problem. If you are interested, you may dig this. I think, my father can be found by the DNA analysis. Ask the Interface of the database, identify the candidates, make few thousand probes, and you'll get the result.
B: Perhaps, this is not good topic to discuss.. Better, tell me, how did you explain to your electors, that namely you are best candidate? Sorry that I ask these questions, but this discussion is for the people, who knows almost nothing about Tartaria, and even less about you..
T: I just suggested the way to leave in peace. No wars. No conflicts.
B: Is it doable?
T: Of course, not! I mean, the best approach for this. Each time, when you do something serious and important, the conflicts arise. The legislation should be arranged in such a way, that they are resolved at very beginning. Neither Constitution, nor penal code cover all the cases. So, the coordinators handle this, playing with the appropriate part of the national budget.
B: Do you think, the conflict regulation is important for your country?
T: Yes... Hmm. You told me, that you'll ask the sharp, unpolite questions.. This does not seem to be one of that kind.. Well, I try to explain. Our laws are so good, that even bad people can use it. So, our people behave, as if they would be good. Avoid conflicts, in the sense I had mentioned. I just follow this way. But our laws are not perfect. I think how to improve it. I think, they can be better. I mean, the National laws. To follow better our Constitution.
B: You consider yourself as a patriot?
T: No. How many times I should repeat, that I just do my job? I do my job as well as I can. My mother does the same with her job. By the way, base or word "horoshilina" is "horosho", that means "good". So, we keep this brend.. The federal law is established. I implement it here. I adopt it for Norga. During 3 years. Then we'll see.
B: But you think, how to provide the prosperity of your republic, your country..
T: No. This is not my job. Prosperity is result of workers, engineers, farmers, librarians, doctors.. I am employed to keep here the Federal Law and the National Law. To keep the Constitution at this specific farm, at these specific conditions. I do not know how to explain this..
B: But you handle some national industries.. According to your Program..
T: Yes. I do this to know, to feel the needs of the population. As a competence for the private industry. Other coordinators do the same. I mean, honest coordinators.. The national industry is more sensor, than competition. If the private businesswomen or businessmen make any cartel, plot, some monopoly, then, the anti-monopoly law will be applied to them. But even earlier, my national factories become competitive. So, the fraud will be revealed and the conflict will be stopped at very beginning..
B: Do you mean, that the national factories are not competitive?
T: Yes. The private companies are more efficient than any kind of so-called «socialism». I mean, national and federal industry.. If the federal or even national factories become competitive with the private ones – this is warning signal; this means, that the administration – police, court, tax inspectors – do something wrong. I mean, suppress the business, instead of to promote it.
B: But how do you keep them the non-competitive factories?
T: The national factories do not pay national taxes. Only contribution to the Federal Bidget – as it is written in my Program. The federal factories do not pay even this.. This is imposed in Any program of Any coordinator of Any farm of Tartaria.
B: Any farm?? As I know, the structure of industry in various farms are so different.. For example, at Komi, the most of industry is nationalized.. If that they have can be called "industry".
T: Komi is extremal case. The taxes there are a little bit higher, than in other farms, and the oligarchs move their business to other farms. Then, the Komi coordinators see, that they approach the communism: brain drain, reduction of population, rise of crime and other attributes of communism.. Would Komi be an isolated farm, an independent country, that would be a catastrophe. But their degradation is limited by the Federal Law.. The free market of goods and labor is basic of Tartaria. There is no principal difference between Norga and Komi. Only the quantitative. Part of the national industry in the total product of the farm. It cannot be very different; if it is too different, it raises the conflict.
B: Again, you mention the conflicts.. Which conflicts do you consider as most important, most dangerous?
T: Most important and dangerous are conflicts between countries. Then, between farms. We handle them at the Federal Junta, in order not to all of the conflict to reach the level of the Federal Court.. Then the business and people. The problem is, that it is seduction to sell everything that we have, leaving the population of Tartaris with nothing, even worse, with debts.. My mother, while she was yang, even before the Bigpuf, had to pay such international debts.. She told me, it was really heavy job. They had to work 15, or even 20 hours daily. As all other young women, recruited to MVD; it was compulsory.
B: What is MVD?
T: Ministry of Vaginal Deals. State-organized sex industry for foreigners.. And even such a heavy job could not save the country from the Bigpuf.. All this because of socialism, the extremal case of monopolization. The socialism is not efficient.
B: But that is history, how about now?
T: Now some problems are the same. For example, the high treasure had been found in the shelters of the former military crimes – those badguys who led the country to the Bigpuf. Their treasure had been expropriated. Just because they did not register it and did not pay taxes for it.
B: The military crimes were punished for tax fraud? Not for the Bigpuf??
T: Yes, you understand well. The military crimes were committed before creation of Tartaria. So, they cannot be judged by the laws of Tartaria.
B: But they can be judged by the International Court?
T: Yes, of course. Our archives, I mean, that had survived the Bigpuf, and that had been collected after that, are open. Pick up the cocuments, prepare the application to the International Court. Then, the Feredal Court of Tartaria will consider, and, perhaps, the Tartarian crimes will be transferred to Hague for interrogation. And then for all other legal procedures, including the punishment, confiscaion of property, even execution. If they had committed some crime since creation of Tartaria, they can be deprived the Tartarian citizenship and extradited.
B: But this does not happen so often?
T: This is your job, to bring the information to your readers, to your administration, to your courts. And to convince our court.. You asked me about conflicts of interests. I tried to answer, but you interrupted me. Are you still interested?
B: Sorry. Yes, please.
T: I suggest an example. A lot of treasures is been found in shelters of the former military crimes. It had been accumulated in enormous, absurd amounts. Perhaps since the beginning of century 21.. May be, they begun even earlier.. Then it had been hidden in the shelters. We had found it. The market value of that treasure greatly exceeds the budget of Tartaria. We could sell it; then, during one or two generations, population of Norga would have no need to produce anything. We could buy everything ready to use.
B: Had you discuss such an option at referendum? I know, you, Tartarians, like referendums..
T: No! Of course, not! Such an "option" would mean violation of the Constitution. That would make us dependent on the import of everything. In particular, we would have no base for national weapon. This would mean to lose our sovereignty.. Either the court would prescribe intervention of the Federal Military forces, or Norga would be expelled from Tartaria. There was such a precedent, at very beginning of Tartaria. The coordinator of Komi, Gargan Popov had declared, "we have money, all the rest we can buy". It would not be a big deal, but his decision had been supported by population of Komi.. Sometimes this happens at the direct democracy. Vox populi, box Dei, and the horrible things happen..
B: And what was the result?
T: Komi had been exspelled from Tartaria. Within few years, Komi spent their treasure for religious rituals and were close to return to the civil war. Impeachment of coordinator Popov. New coordinator, I do not remember his name, declared, that Komi should join back Tartaria. It was not so easy, because the Tartaria cannot accept a farm with civil war in it. It was not at scale of the Bigpuf, but still.. First, they had to follow Constitution. Then they were accepted back. Now Komi is again part of Tartaria. I had to remind that case, when we had discussed the treasure of the past–century shelters at the Federal Junta and fount the solution.
B: What did you found? What kind of treasure?
T: As usually: gold, silver, platinum, cobalt, nickel, titanium, тungsten, zirconium, Berillium, Lithium.. Jewerly.. Natural crystals.. And, of course, tons of cash in European and American and Asian currencies.. A little bit devaluated since the time of collection, but still very important. It helped to keep our fans from inflation. Without MVD.
B: What did you do with that treasure?
T: It had been nationalized. Confiscated. Plundered. Some part is left with the people who found it. We use them for electronics. And for other industry. That treasure had been accumulated during a century. It would be stupid to spend it in few years. It was strong boost for our industry. And also for the decontamination.. By the way, you have visited the Norga Warm; so, you know the case.. Platinum, tungsten and zirconium are used to make samorats for separation of chemicals and then for separation of isotopes. Several administrators, who tried to sell the treasure, and, perhaps, to hide of shores.. They had been executed. Sorry.
B: Do you plan to recover the nuclear industry?
T: It is not my job, to recover any industry. It is job of technologists, engineers, businesswomen and businessmen. I only provide them condition for the efficient work.
B: You, coordinator, do not handle the strategic policy of your farm?
T: Just the case! There are some scientific councils, economists.. I follow their advices, I handle few national projects.. Well, we have the military department. Strategic, as you say. It has relatively moderate budget, compared to the total amount of goods produced in Norga. I could not spend much; would I specify more tax in my Program, I would not be elected. Would I try to regulate anything outside this budget, id est, to interfere economics, - uuu.. It should be qualified as "vertikalvlasti", «Pahanat». Kind of usurpation. Our penal code has special article for this. And the sequences: Impeachment, suspension of duties, arrest, court, confiscation of property, etcetera.
B: But I think, you try to do something for your farm..
T: No. I did a lot, preparing the balanced Program. Before the Election. Now my job is just to keep it. To show, that it is balanced. Say, to come to the end of my administration with non–negative balance. Over–vice, I loss my profit in this.
B: Your statement may sound a little bit cynic..
T: Yes. I am cynic. At the beginning, you had revealed that I am son of a bitch. What other philosophy could you expect from me?
B: Some attempts to move your farm to civilization, To move your country to civilization..
T: Sorry. I am employed by the people. By our nationals. I won the auction of projects. So, I just follow it, no way for that you call "civilization". I follow the contract I made with Norga people.
B: The people could nave benefits..
T: There is so-called «Invisible Hand». Free marked, defense of property, etc. Capitalism. It does goods, it does benefits. First, to the owners of the business; then to the other people. We, administration, try to provide the conditions for this «Invisible Hand». I mean the prudence. That is all we can do.
B: One says, the Tartarian philosophy is pretty different from that to the Western civilization..
T: Yes! Of course. We declare the things explicitly. Our people survived during centuries of terror, slavery, cannibalism, wars, feudalism, and in fin, the Bigpuf.. The best representatives of our nation had been exterminated. Our Constitution and respect to the laws is the only our hope. With our laws, we sometimes look as civilized people. We did this within few tens of years. In Europe, the same process took centuries. We cannot do things in your way.. Sorry..
B: Thank you, mister Horoshilina, for the interesting explanation of your position.
T: Thank you, mister Hitchcock, for your interest..
Before to return the UK, Ben Candid Hitchcock wanter to visit the Galia State University of Tartaria.
he assisted the picnic. Ben wanted made few interviews at Galia.
He succeeded to talk with Zina Vertuhaev and learned a lot about races:
Whites, Blacks, Yellows and Reds - how they are interpreted in the course of history of Tartaria. About the big battle between the Whites and Reds; the Red army won and organized the mass terror everywhere it could reach..
Zarina also had mentioned the rase of Greens who also used to live at this land;
but all representatives of Greens had been exterminated at the beginning of century 20,
and the most of documents about them are lost. She does not believe the sparse articles about the «little green min», the publications she knows are difficult to use for building a scientific concept.
That is another story; perhaps, it is not yet loaded.