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https://www.anekdot.ru/id/1494775/ Что такое математика. // Население 562 // Высота, футов над уровнем моря 2150 // Год основания 1951 .. Всего 4663
  
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[[TartariaE00]] is English description of scientific project «[[Tartaria]]».
  
   
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[[TartariaE00]] is an English description of the scientific project «[[Tartaria]]».
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In [[TORI]] term «[[Tartaria]]» refers to the extensive [[Gedankenexperiment]]
  
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In [[TORI]], the term «[[Tartaria]]» refers to an extensive [[Gedankenexperiment]]
 
about the logical fundamentals of the most popular paradigms, so-called «common sense»:
  
about the logical fundamentals of the most popular paradigms, so-called «common sense»:
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"The rules are established, just follow!".<br>
  
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"The rules are established, just follow!".
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As an example, one may check, that the addition of the 3 numbers in the figure at right is performed correctly, following the well-establisher rules of arithmetics.
  
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As an example, one may check that the addition of the three numbers in the figure at right is performed correctly, following the well-established rules of arithmetic.
   
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Project «[[Tartaria]]» is to analyze the "common sense" taboos, to check them, to test them,
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The project «[[Tartaria]]» aims to analyze the "common sense" taboos, to check and test them,
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in ordet to verify them or to refute them, dependently on the results of the [[Gedankenexperiment]]. In such a way, the common sense taboos become object of the analysis with the [[TORI axioms]] as a main tool.
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in order to verify or refute them, depending on the results of the [[Gedankenexperiment]].
   
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In such a way, the common-sense taboos become objects of analysis, with the [[TORI axioms]] as the main tool.
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This articles overviews the project.
  
   
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This article overviews the project.
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{{fig|TikaGellaFragment360x400.jpg|180|-20|2|-8|Too Young <ref name="too"/>}}
  
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{{fig|TikaGellaFragment360x400.jpg|200|-24|2|-8|Too Young <ref name="too">
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https://moonkieshop.com/blogs/news/15-questions-ask-about-how-young-is-too-young
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15 Questions First-Time Parents Ask About How Young Is Too Young?
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By [[Amber Williams]] May 29, 2025
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</ref>}}
   
 
==[[Taboo]]s==
  
==[[Taboo]]s==
   
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The goal of this experiment is analysis of the taboos of the Hunan Civilizations;
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The goal of this experiment is the analysis of taboos of human civilization,
 
mainly those of the so-called «[[Western civilization]]»<ref>
  
mainly those of the so-called «[[Western civilization]]»<ref>
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Western_civilization
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Western_civilization
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[[Western civilization]] traces its roots back to Europe and the Mediterranean. It began in ancient Greece, transformed in ancient Rome, and evolved into medieval Western Christendom before experiencing such seminal developmental episodes as the development of Scholasticism, the Renaissance, the Reformation, the Scientific Revolution, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, and the development of liberal democracy. The civilizations of classical Greece and Rome are considered seminal periods in Western history. Major cultural contributions also came from the Christianized Germanic peoples, such as the Longobards, the Franks, the Goths, and the Burgundians. Charlemagne founded the Carolingian Empire and he is referred to as the "Father of Europe".[1] ..
  
 
</ref><ref>
  
</ref><ref>
 
https://www.persuasion.community/p/dont-define-western-civilization
  
https://www.persuasion.community/p/dont-define-western-civilization
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[[Francis Fukuyama]]// What “[[Western Civilization]]” Really Means.
  
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It has less to do with faith — and more to do with the Enlightenment — than [[Marco Rubio]] thinks.
 
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Mar 03, 2026 //
  
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Secretary of State [[Marco Rubio]] delivers a keynote speech at the 62nd Munich Security Conference on February 14, 2026 in Munich, Germany. (Photo by Johannes Simon/Getty Images.)
  
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We are part of one civilization — [[Western civilization]]. We are bound to one another by the deepest bonds that nations could share, forged by centuries of shared history, Christian faith, culture, heritage, language, ancestry, and the sacrifices our forefathers made together for the common civilization to which we have fallen heir.
 
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— Secretary of State [[Marco Rubio]] at the Munich Security Conference, February 14, 2026.
  
 
</ref> or «[[Western culture]]»
  
</ref> or «[[Western culture]]»
 
<ref>
  
<ref>
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture
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[[Western culture]], also known as [[Western civilization]], European civilization, Occidental culture, Western society, or simply the West, is the internally diverse culture of the Western world. The term "Western" encompasses the social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, political systems, artifacts and technologies primarily rooted in European and Mediterranean histories. A broad concept, "Western culture" does not relate to a region with fixed members or geographical confines. It generally refers to the classical era cultures of Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, and their Christian successors that expanded across the Mediterranean basin and Europe, and later circulated around the world predominantly through colonization and globalization.
  
 
</ref>.
  
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Many sided of the Human life seem to be under investigated, not interpreted, not analyzed; at least in the standard educational scheme. The two stages are observed:
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Many sides of human life seem to be under-investigated, not interpreted, not analyzed;
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at least in the standard educational scheme.
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Two stages are often observed:
 
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1. You are child, you should not deal with adult questions. <ref name="too">
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1. You are a child — you should not deal with adult questions. <ref name="too"/>
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https://moonkieshop.com/blogs/news/15-questions-ask-about-how-young-is-too-young
  
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15 Questions First-Time Parents Ask About How Young Is Too Young?
  
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By [[Amber Williams]] May 29, 2025
  
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</ref>
  
 
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2. You are adult, you must understand this and not to ack stupid questions. <ref>
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2. You are an adult — you must understand this and not ask "stupid questions". <ref>
 
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-wrong-you-dont-answer-its-stupid-question-monty-clark
  
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-wrong-you-dont-answer-its-stupid-question-monty-clark
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What’s Wrong With You?! Don’t Answer That – It’s a Stupid Question // [[Monty Clark]], MBA
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What’s Wrong With You?! Don’t Answer That – It’s a Stupid Question // [[Monty Clark]], MBA .. May 11, 2015
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.. May 11, 2015
  
 
</ref>
  
</ref>
   
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Certain things, topics are objects for [[censorship]]. The censorship does not explain the motivation for prohibition of certain topics for the public exhibition and analysis.
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Certain topics are objects of [[censorship]].
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The censorship does not explain the motivation for prohibiting certain topics.
   
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Even worse. There is internal contradiction in the prohibition.
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Even worse, there is an internal contradiction:
   
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In order to prohibit some thing, the law should carefully describe the prohibited thing, provide examples: what is prohibited, what is allowed. But it is prohibited to expose examples of the prohibited things..
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In order to prohibit something, the law should describe it carefully,
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provide examples of what is prohibited and what is allowed —
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but it is often prohibited to expose such examples.
   
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Often, it is assumed, that all the prohibitions of the Human civilization, all the taboos have their reasons, and the Society will collapse if these prohibitions are lifted.
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Often it is assumed that all prohibitions of human civilization have valid reasons,
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and that society will collapse if these prohibitions are lifted.
   
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Attempts to analyze such prohibitions often meet [[motivated reasoning]],
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Often, the attempts to reveal the roots of a prohibition meet some kind of [[motivated reasoning]], see «[[Female logic]]». That makes impression, that the rules are just fake, see «[[How to Write a Fake]]». The apology of a rule looks as a [[propaganda]],
 
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see «[[Female logic]]».
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causing seduction to apply the [[Rule of Newspeak]], id est,
  
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to insert a rule, to turn it into the prescription or, at least, to the recommendation.
  
   
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This creates the impression that some rules are artificial,
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Some prohibitions are easy to understand:
  
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see «[[How to Write a Fake]]».
   
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The justification of a rule may resemble [[propaganda]],
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(1) Do not kill unless in defense.
  
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tempting one to apply the [[Rule of Newspeak]],
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i.e., to inverse the rule, to replace the prohibition of something to its recommendation or even to it prescription.
   
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However, [[There is no freedom without Law]]. Some prohibitions are easy to understand:
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(2) Do not attack first, do not use menaces.
  
   
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(3) Do not steal someone's property.
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(1) Do not kill, except in defense.
   
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(4) Do not hide information, do not misinform.
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(2) Do not attack first; do not threaten.
   
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(3) Do not steal.
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If we lift any of 1-3 above, the people of a society cannot produce good because all the efforts will be spent to protect themselves in order not to be robbed, not to be killed.
  
   
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(4) Do not hide or falsify information.
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If we lift the (4), we have almost the same, as one does not know that the (1-3) are still in action.
  
   
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If rules (1–3) are removed, people cannot produce anything useful,
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Forever, even the [[Ten Commandments]] have more rules, and even more articles are specified in a [[Crimimal code]] of any country; and even more so-called "unwritten rules" are followed by the most of population in civilized societies.
  
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as all effort goes into self-defense.
   
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If rule (4) is removed, the effect is similar,
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The goal of this research it to understand, how important are other taboos, prohibitions, unwritten rules that usually are added to the (1-4) above.
  
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because one cannot trust that (1–3) still hold.
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Even the [[Ten Commandments]] include more rules,
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and legal systems contain far more,
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plus many "unwritten rules" followed in civilized societies.
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The goal of this research is to understand how important
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the additional taboos and unwritten rules are.
   
 
==Justification==
  
==Justification==
   
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The [[Gedankenexperiment]] «[[Tartaria]]» is an attempt to reveal the main channels of the decay, collapse of a society that reject some of the «common sense» rules.
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The [[Gedankenexperiment]] «[[Tartaria]]» attempts to reveal mechanisms
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of societal collapse when "common sense" rules are rejected.
   
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Such an experiment may help to counter destructive revolutionary ideas like:
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Such a [[Gedankenexperiment]] is important at least to stop those revolutionaries
 
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who follow the rile
 
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«Und liegt vom Kampfe in Trümmern//
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«Und liegt vom Kampfe in Trümmern...»
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from «[[Es zittern die morschen Knochen]]»<ref>
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Die ganze Welt zuhauf,//
  
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Das soll uns den Teufel kümmern,//
  
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Wir bauen sie wieder auf.»
  
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from hymn «[[Es zittern die morschen Knochen]]»
  
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<ref>
  
 
https://ingeb.org/Lieder/eszitter.html
  
https://ingeb.org/Lieder/eszitter.html
 
[[Hans Baumann]]. [[Es zittern die morschen Knochen]]. (observed in 2026)
  
[[Hans Baumann]]. [[Es zittern die morschen Knochen]]. (observed in 2026)
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</ref>.
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</ref>
   
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«Весь мир насилья мы разрушим...» from «[[The Internationale]]»<ref>
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The idea of destruction of the old world and establish the [[New World Order]]
  
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may be borrowed from «[[The Internationale]]» <ref>
  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale
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</ref><ref>
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"[[The Internationale]]"[a] is an international anthem that has been adopted as the anthem of various anarchist, communist, socialist and social democratic movements.[1][2]
  
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</ref>: «C'est la lutte finale»
  
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and/or, even closer, from its Russian version
  
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<ref>
  
 
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Интернационал_(гимн)
  
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Интернационал_(гимн)
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</ref>
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«Интернациона́л»[1] (фр. L’Internationale, от лат. inter — между и natio — нация) — международный пролетарский гимн; гимн коммунистических партий, социалистов и анархистов, официальный гимн РСФСР (1918—1922), СССР (1922—1944), Дальневосточной республики (1920—1922), Китайской Советской Республики (1931—1937), а также Тувинской НР (1921—1944) и всех республик в составе СССР (до 1944). ..
  
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</ref>:
  
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«.. Весь мир насилья мы разрушим //
  
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До основанья, а затем //
  
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Мы наш, мы новый мир построим — //
  
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Кто был ничем, тот станет всем.»
  
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with the idea that some miserable «Poligraf Poligrafovich Sharikov» gets real power
  
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<ref>
  
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_a_Dog
  
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Heart of a Dog (Russian: Собачье сердце, romanized: Sobach'ye serdtse, IPA: [sɐˈbatɕjɪ ˈsʲertsə]) is a novella by Russian author Mikhail Bulgakov. A biting satire of Bolshevism, it was written in 1925 at the height of the New Economic Policy, a period during which communism appeared to be relaxing in the Soviet Union.[1] It is generally interpreted as an allegory of the communist revolution and "the revolution's misguided attempt to radically transform mankind".[2] ..
  
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Absence of such a [[gedankenesperiment]] at the beginning of century 20 can be considered as
  
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possible reason of failure of the democratic revolution of 1917 February at [[Moscovia]]:
  
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The same year, the democracy had been crashed and replaced to bloody dictatorship of [[Bokshevism]];
  
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then, the story had repeated in 1990-2000; the attempt to construct a civilized society failed, and the superior power again felt in hands of the bloody agent of [[KGB]], liar and [[war crime]].<br>
  
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At Moscovia, the attempts to describe the proper society of future look inconsistent, giving food to a humor.
  
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One example is copypasted below:
  
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Pay Line was sitting in the the commander's sit, gently keeping the Main Stick of the spacecraft "Tatra" with his strong hand and listening the romantic talking by fat beauty In Grid. She cold talk about her amours during several light years in row... // Suddenly, the radio-traffic-signal broke the monotonous count by In Grid. Pay Line had to apply the hadron brake and stop the spacecraft. After the signal quit, Pay Line accelerated the spaceship, but the signal sounded again... This repeated several times...// Poor His entered the cabin and asked: What's the matter? We are not a firewood to shake us in such a way! - The radio traffic signal... It opens the way, then it closes it, then it opens, and so on, again and again, - explained Pay Line. - "Stupid idiot!" - Poor His cried, - "This is just a pulsar!".
  
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(English adaptation of https://www.anekdot.ru/id/477050/ )
  
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Revolution happens when a society cannot follow the same way, but tries to follow the same old principles
  
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<ref>
  
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https://www.1000dokumente.de/Dokumente/Nina_Andreeva,_%27%27Ich_kann_meine_Prinzipien_nicht_preisgeben%27%27
  
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Andreeva, Nina, Ich kann meine Prinzipien nicht preisgeben, 13. März 1988.
  
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</ref>, see also «[[Андреева Нина Александровна]]» (in Russian).
  
   
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The absence of any attempt to check the new "revolutionary" idea on a small samples, simple harmless experiments may explain
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In the most of cases, no any attempt to desctibethe details of the
 
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failures of the democratic transitions, such as in 1917 or 1990s at [[Moscovia]].
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post-revolution society is pervaded by the organizers. They are fighting for the power.
  
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Either they have no time to think about possible sequences,
  
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or they understand, that the result of their ruling may be horrible, and not publish their forecasts.
  
   
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Revolutions often occur when societies try to follow old principles
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This is general rule: any dictator, herring the power, already has his wishes, what one wants to do. This with does not imply any research abut possible results; usually, no experiment is assumed, nor even any
 
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in new conditions without analysis.
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[[gedanexoeriment]].
  
   
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Leaders seeking power rarely analyze consequences;
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Editor does not make any politic, so such a [[gedankenexperiment]] is presented.
  
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they act without experiments or even [[Gedankenexperiment]]s.
   
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This project explicitly fills that gap.
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In contrast with the usual, "instanfing" sci-fi,
  
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the goal of project «[[Tartaria]]» is explicitly declared here.
  
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In this sense, the «[[Tartaria]]» is outstanding research.
  
   
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Unlike typical sci-fi, «[[Tartaria]]» clearly states its purpose:
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All the taboos except (1-4) are explicitly broken in the society described.
  
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to test what happens when most taboos (except 1–4) are removed.
   
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If some taboo, role, custom, «unwritten rile» of the «[[Western civilization]]», except (1-4), is not yet broken in [[Tartaria]] -
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If any taboo (beyond 1–4) remains unbroken in [[Tartaria]],
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please, let Editor know, in order to fix this fault.
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Editor requests to identify it in order to correct this fault.
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May be, namely this helps to reveal some important channel of the collapse of the society described.
  
   
 
==Spoilers==
  
==Spoilers==
   
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{{fig|Stone_Commandments.jpg|100|-12|2|2|Respect Law}}
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The idea of the project is to trace at least one personage in the society mentioned above.
  
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{{fig|ReligionMasianiaFragme432x300.png|144|4|4|8|Respect other [[Religion]]s}}
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<div class="thumb tright" style="float:right; margin:4px 0px 8px 8px; background-color:#fff; width:140px;">
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{{pic|NegriNaPlyazhe18fragme160x160.jpg|70px}}{{pic|RedGirlUrlmnFragme600x600.jpg|70px}}<center>Black &nbsp; Red</center>
   
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{{pic|Legs003fragme240x240.jpg|70px}}{{pic|Tolstuha56fagme440x440.jpg|70px}}<center>Yellow &nbsp; White</center>
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The «[[Tartaria]]» happens to be big. First, the spoilers are loaded.
  
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<small><center>Respect other races</center></small>
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Then, some self-consistent narrative is expected to be assembled of these spoilers.
  
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</div>
   
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{{fig|TartariaFlag00.jpg|120|4|4|8|Respect Flag}}
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Here is an attempt to order the spoilers in a sequential order:
  
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The narrative of the project happen to be large.
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It is loaded as set of "spoilers".
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Proposed sequence:
 
<poem>
  
<poem>
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«[[TartariaE01]]»
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«[[TartariaE00]]»
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«[[TartariaE01prologue]]»
 
«[[TartariaE02]]»
  
«[[TartariaE02]]»
 
«[[TartariaE03]]»
  
«[[TartariaE03]]»
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«[[Tartaria03]]»
  
«[[Tartaria03]]»
 
«[[Tartaria04]]»
  
«[[Tartaria04]]»
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«[[Ruvim Pechor]]» (about the personage)
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«[[If tomorrow corrupt]]»
  
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«[[Тартарская кухня]]» (in Russian)
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«[[If tomorrow corrupt]]» (song)
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«[[Тартарская кухня]]» (in Russian)
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«[[Bigpuf]]»
  
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«[[Cannibal tale]]»
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«[[ThereWillComeSoftRains]]» (retrospective view to century 21)
  
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«[[Тартария.МВД]]» (In Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Bigpuf]]» (retrospective)
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«[[Карл Браун]]» (In Russian, retrospective)
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«[[ThereWillComeSoftRains]]» (retrospective)
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«[[Клеветаймс]]» (In Russian)
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«[[Тартария.МВД]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Марк Артуров]]» (In Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Тартария.Каторга]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Мурка]]» (In Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Карл Браун]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Клеветаймс]]» ([[The Clever Times]]) (in Russian)
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«[[Paygirl]]» (stub)
  
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«[[Paygirl]]» (stab)
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«[[Марк Артуров]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Agent Smit]]» (about the personage)
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«[[Агент Смит]]» (("Гена"), in Russian, about the personage)
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«[[Barbara Smit]]» (about the personage)
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«[[Мурка]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
 
«[[Tolian Horoshilina]]»
  
«[[Tolian Horoshilina]]»
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«[[Василий Пупкин]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Путведев и Пупкин]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Пупкин революционер]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
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«[[Доктрина Пупкина]]» (in Russian, retrospective)
 
«[[Gella interview]]»
  
«[[Gella interview]]»
 
«[[Gella Interview advances]]»
  
«[[Gella Interview advances]]»
 
«[[Gella at Pupkin]]»
  
«[[Gella at Pupkin]]»
 
«[[Форкастная генетика]]» (in Russian)
  
«[[Форкастная генетика]]» (in Russian)
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«[[]]»
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«[[Constitution of Tartaria]]» (optiotnal, retrospective)
  
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«[[Tartaria Guide for Newcomers]]» (optional),
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«[[Constitution of Tartaria]]» (optional)
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«[[Tartaria Guide for Newcomers]]» (optional)
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«[[Trulag]]»,
  
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«[[Trulag]]» (optional)
 
</poem>
  
</poem>
   
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Some overlap is intentional, to detect contradictions.
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Some spoilers may slightly overlap. This overlapping is necessary,
  
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Spoilers marked with labels «personage» and/or «Optional» have no need to be included into the final version; however, some content from there still may be used in the final version.
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to trace the possible contradictions, if any.
  
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In the same way, the ranges of validity of the primary approximations of a holomorphic function must overlap - over-vice, it is difficult to believe, that the same function is implemented.<br>
  
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==Gallery==
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At the end of the work, the overlapping should be minimized.
  
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Very pessimistic views on the future of the Human civilization
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are expressed by cartoonists. Few examples are shown below.
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{{picx|DonaldMeinKampf600.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|BackInTheUSSR.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|HowBetter.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|PutiNuk.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|2022.04.19.ann102.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|AndyOglesCopy.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|TrumpPutVenezuela800x444scr.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|2026plumPuddingScr720x416.jpg|100px}}
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{{picx|TrumpiaMap800x450.jpg|100px}}
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Project «[[Tartaria]]» may suggest a little bit more optimistic, but still realistic forecast.<br>
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If success, such a forecasts can be considered as a by-product of this research.
   
 
==Warning and apology==
  
==Warning and apology==
   
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Protect [[Tartaria]] is not an attempt to suggest a better organization for the Human Society.
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The project «[[Tartaria]]» does not propose a better society.
   
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[[TORI]] are not about things that should be.
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[[TORI]] is not about what *should be*,
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but about what *may happen*.
   
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If an engineer or glaciologist warns a captain not to sail at full speed, ascribing the possible catastrophic scenario — do not blame them for the moral story.
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[[TORI]] are not things that are observed and things that may happen.
  
   
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Do not confuse the Narrator with the personages.
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If some Engineer tells to the Captain of some [[Titanik]],
  
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that it is not a good idea, to run the first trip of a new ship at the maximal speed - do not blame the Engineer.
  
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<br>
  
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If some Glaciologist tells to the Captain of some [[Titanik]],
  
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that it is not a good idea, to run at the maximal speed in the North Atlantic at night - do not blame the Glaciologist.
  
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.. covenant document, that, according to the Hebrew Bible, were given by God to Moses. The text of the [[Ten Commandments]] appears in three markedly distinct versions in the Hebrew Bible:[1] at Exodus 20:1–17, Deuteronomy 5:6–21, and the "Ritual Decalogue" of Exodus 34:11–26. //
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https://royallib.com/read/Sheckley_Robert/a_ticket_to_tranai.html#0 [[Robert Sheckley]] // [[A Ticket to Tranai]]
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2012.oo.oo.
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Strugatskii, Arkadii Natanovich, author. [[Piknik na obochine]]. English. 2012 // Roadside picnic / Arkady and Boris Strugatsky ; translated by [[Olena Bormashenko]]. ..
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[[Happiness for everyone]]! Free! As much happiness as you want! Everyone gather round! Plenty for everyone! No one will be forgotten! ..
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2014.09.25.
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https://www.rg.ru/2014/09/26/zorkin.html
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25.09.2014 23:50 Власть Зорькин: [[Международное право]] становится сферой вольных интерпретаций .. [[При всех издержках крепостничества именно оно было главной скрепой, удерживающей внутреннее единство нации]]. ..
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2026.oo.oo.
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https://strugacki.ru/book_26/1128.html //
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https://www.rulit.me/books/monday-starts-on-saturday-read-498213-43.html
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Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. MONDAY STARTS ON SATURDAY Part 3.
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Translated by [[Anderew Bromberg]]
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Illustratios by [[Yevgenoy Migunov]] ()
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Chicago Review Press STORY No. 3. All Kinds of Commotion
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.. everyone was rich and free of care, and even the lowliest of plowmen had at least three slaves to his name. ..
   
 
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«[[]]»,
  
 
«[[Alternative Math]]»,
  
«[[Alternative Math]]»,
 
«[[Appeasing aggression]]»,
  
«[[Appeasing aggression]]»,
 
«[[Bolshevism]]»,
  
«[[Bolshevism]]»,
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«[[CicilWar2024]]»,
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«[[CivilWar2024]]»,
 
«[[Collapse of RF]]»,
  
«[[Collapse of RF]]»,
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«[[Collapse of USA]]»,
 
«[[Communism]]»,
  
«[[Communism]]»,
 
«[[Cannibal tale]]»,
  
«[[Cannibal tale]]»,
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«[[Churchill about Russia]]»,
 
«[[Constitution of Tartaria]]»,
  
«[[Constitution of Tartaria]]»,
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«[[Donroe Doctrine]]»,
  
 
«[[Duration]]»,
  
«[[Duration]]»,
 
«[[Fascism]]»,
  
«[[Fascism]]»,
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«[[From Moon to Earth with antiwing]]»,
  
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«[[From Moon to Earth with antiwing by ChatGPT]]»,
  
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«[[How to Write a Fake]]»,
  
 
«[[Gedankenesperiment]]»,
  
«[[Gedankenesperiment]]»,
 
«[[Moscovia]]»,
  
«[[Moscovia]]»,
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«[[New World Order]]»,
 
«[[Payback]]»,
  
«[[Payback]]»,
 
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«[[Quasistationary Model of Putin world war]]»,
  
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«[[Realpolitik]]»,
 
«[[Taboo]]»,
  
«[[Taboo]]»,
 
«[[Tartaria]]»,
  
«[[Tartaria]]»,
 
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«[[А нас то за что]]»,
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«[[Агрессор и оккупант]]»,
  
 
«[[Большевики убили почти всех]]»,
  
«[[Большевики убили почти всех]]»,
 
«[[Всех убьём, всех ограбим]]»,
  
«[[Всех убьём, всех ограбим]]»,
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«[[Движуха]]»,
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«[[Каннибальная сказка]]»,
  
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«[[Тимур и его банда]]»,
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«[[Люксембург-Воркута]]»,
 
«[[Мы попадём в рай а они сдохнут]]»,
  
«[[Мы попадём в рай а они сдохнут]]»,
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«[[Предсказания революций]]»,
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«[[Удвоение ВВП сказка]]»,
   
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Revision as of 23:33, 31 March 2026


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Common sense [1]

TartariaE00 is an English description of the scientific project «Tartaria».

In TORI, the term «Tartaria» refers to an extensive Gedankenexperiment about the logical fundamentals of the most popular paradigms, so-called «common sense»:
"The rules are established, just follow!".
As an example, one may check that the addition of the three numbers in the figure at right is performed correctly, following the well-established rules of arithmetic.

The project «Tartaria» aims to analyze the "common sense" taboos, to check and test them, in order to verify or refute them, depending on the results of the Gedankenexperiment.

In such a way, the common-sense taboos become objects of analysis, with the TORI axioms as the main tool.

This article overviews the project.

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Too Young [2]

Taboos

The goal of this experiment is the analysis of taboos of human civilization, mainly those of the so-called «Western civilization»[3][4] or «Western culture» [5].

Many sides of human life seem to be under-investigated, not interpreted, not analyzed; at least in the standard educational scheme.

Two stages are often observed:
1. You are a child — you should not deal with adult questions. [2]
2. You are an adult — you must understand this and not ask "stupid questions". [6]

Certain topics are objects of censorship. The censorship does not explain the motivation for prohibiting certain topics.

Even worse, there is an internal contradiction:

In order to prohibit something, the law should describe it carefully, provide examples of what is prohibited and what is allowed — but it is often prohibited to expose such examples.

Often it is assumed that all prohibitions of human civilization have valid reasons, and that society will collapse if these prohibitions are lifted.

Attempts to analyze such prohibitions often meet motivated reasoning, see «Female logic».

This creates the impression that some rules are artificial, see «How to Write a Fake».

The justification of a rule may resemble propaganda, tempting one to apply the Rule of Newspeak, i.e., to inverse the rule, to replace the prohibition of something to its recommendation or even to it prescription.

However, There is no freedom without Law. Some prohibitions are easy to understand:

(1) Do not kill, except in defense.

(2) Do not attack first; do not threaten.

(3) Do not steal.

(4) Do not hide or falsify information.

If rules (1–3) are removed, people cannot produce anything useful, as all effort goes into self-defense.

If rule (4) is removed, the effect is similar, because one cannot trust that (1–3) still hold.

Even the Ten Commandments include more rules, and legal systems contain far more, plus many "unwritten rules" followed in civilized societies.

The goal of this research is to understand how important the additional taboos and unwritten rules are.

Justification

The Gedankenexperiment «Tartaria» attempts to reveal mechanisms of societal collapse when "common sense" rules are rejected.

Such an experiment may help to counter destructive revolutionary ideas like:

«Und liegt vom Kampfe in Trümmern...» from «Es zittern die morschen Knochen»[7]

«Весь мир насилья мы разрушим...» from «The Internationale»[8][9]

The absence of any attempt to check the new "revolutionary" idea on a small samples, simple harmless experiments may explain failures of the democratic transitions, such as in 1917 or 1990s at Moscovia.

Revolutions often occur when societies try to follow old principles in new conditions without analysis.

Leaders seeking power rarely analyze consequences; they act without experiments or even Gedankenexperiments.

This project explicitly fills that gap.

Unlike typical sci-fi, «Tartaria» clearly states its purpose: to test what happens when most taboos (except 1–4) are removed.

If any taboo (beyond 1–4) remains unbroken in Tartaria, Editor requests to identify it in order to correct this fault.

Spoilers

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Respect Law
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Respect other Religions
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Black   Red
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Yellow   White
Respect other races
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Respect Flag

The narrative of the project happen to be large. It is loaded as set of "spoilers".

Proposed sequence:

«TartariaE00»
«TartariaE01prologue»
«TartariaE02»
«TartariaE03»
«TartariaE04»
«TartariaE05»
«Tartaria01»
«Tartaria02»
«Tartaria03»
«Tartaria04»
«Ruvim Pechor» (about the personage)
«If tomorrow corrupt» (song)
«Тартарская кухня» (in Russian)
«Cannibal tale»
«Bigpuf» (retrospective)
«ThereWillComeSoftRains» (retrospective)
«Тартария.МВД» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Тартария.Каторга» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Карл Браун» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Клеветаймс» (The Clever Times) (in Russian)
«Paygirl» (stab)
«Марк Артуров» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Agent Smit» (about the personage)
«Агент Смит» (("Гена"), in Russian, about the personage)
«Barbara Smit» (about the personage)
«Мурка» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Tolian Horoshilina»
«Василий Пупкин» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Путведев и Пупкин» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Пупкин революционер» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Доктрина Пупкина» (in Russian, retrospective)
«Gella interview»
«Gella Interview advances»
«Gella at Pupkin»
«Форкастная генетика» (in Russian)
«[[]]»
«Constitution of Tartaria» (optional)
«Tartaria Guide for Newcomers» (optional)
«Trulag» (optional)

Some overlap is intentional, to detect contradictions. Spoilers marked with labels «personage» and/or «Optional» have no need to be included into the final version; however, some content from there still may be used in the final version.

Gallery

Very pessimistic views on the future of the Human civilization are expressed by cartoonists. Few examples are shown below.

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Project «Tartaria» may suggest a little bit more optimistic, but still realistic forecast.
If success, such a forecasts can be considered as a by-product of this research.

Warning and apology

The project «Tartaria» does not propose a better society.

TORI is not about what *should be*, but about what *may happen*.

If an engineer or glaciologist warns a captain not to sail at full speed, ascribing the possible catastrophic scenario — do not blame them for the moral story.

Do not confuse the Narrator with the personages.

Attribution

ChatGPT helped to edit this article.

References

  1. ↑ https://www.anekdot.ru/id/1494775/ Что такое математика. // Население 562 // Высота, футов над уровнем моря 2150 // Год основания 1951 .. Всего 4663
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 https://moonkieshop.com/blogs/news/15-questions-ask-about-how-young-is-too-young 15 Questions First-Time Parents Ask About How Young Is Too Young? By Amber Williams May 29, 2025
  3. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Western_civilization
  4. ↑ https://www.persuasion.community/p/dont-define-western-civilization
  5. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture
  6. ↑ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-wrong-you-dont-answer-its-stupid-question-monty-clark What’s Wrong With You?! Don’t Answer That – It’s a Stupid Question // Monty Clark, MBA .. May 11, 2015
  7. ↑ https://ingeb.org/Lieder/eszitter.html Hans Baumann. Es zittern die morschen Knochen. (observed in 2026)
  8. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale
  9. ↑ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Интернационал_(гимн)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments .. covenant document, that, according to the Hebrew Bible, were given by God to Moses. The text of the Ten Commandments appears in three markedly distinct versions in the Hebrew Bible:[1] at Exodus 20:1–17, Deuteronomy 5:6–21, and the "Ritual Decalogue" of Exodus 34:11–26. //

https://royallib.com/read/Sheckley_Robert/a_ticket_to_tranai.html#0 Robert Sheckley // A Ticket to Tranai

2012.oo.oo. https://ia600203.us.archive.org/21/items/TheThree-BodyProblem2024/Arkady%20Strugatsky%20-%20Roadside%20Picnic.pdf Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data Strugatskii, Arkadii Natanovich, author. Piknik na obochine. English. 2012 // Roadside picnic / Arkady and Boris Strugatsky ; translated by Olena Bormashenko. .. Happiness for everyone! Free! As much happiness as you want! Everyone gather round! Plenty for everyone! No one will be forgotten! ..

2014.09.25. https://www.rg.ru/2014/09/26/zorkin.html 25.09.2014 23:50 Власть Зорькин: Международное право становится сферой вольных интерпретаций .. При всех издержках крепостничества именно оно было главной скрепой, удерживающей внутреннее единство нации. ..

2026.oo.oo. https://strugacki.ru/book_26/1128.html // https://www.rulit.me/books/monday-starts-on-saturday-read-498213-43.html Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. MONDAY STARTS ON SATURDAY Part 3. Translated by Anderew Bromberg Illustratios by Yevgenoy Migunov () Chicago Review Press STORY No. 3. All Kinds of Commotion .. everyone was rich and free of care, and even the lowliest of plowmen had at least three slaves to his name. ..

Keywords

«Alternative Math», «Appeasing aggression», «Bolshevism», «CivilWar2024», «Collapse of RF», «Collapse of USA», «Communism», «Cannibal tale», «Churchill about Russia», «Constitution of Tartaria», «Duration», «Fascism», «Gedankenesperiment», «Moscovia», «New World Order», «Payback», «Propaganda», «Quasistationary Model of Putin world war», «Realpolitik», «Taboo», «Tartaria», «Vestism», «World War II»

«А нас то за что», «Большевики убили почти всех», «Всех убьём, всех ограбим», «Движуха», «Люксембург-Воркута», «Мы попадём в рай а они сдохнут», «Предсказания революций», «Удвоение ВВП сказка»,

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